Answer my question little girl, without playing the ping pong!

[kenny]

Andrea Buffa - A spokesperson for United for Peace and Justice was on KVI radio in Seattle March 6th, on Bryan Suits radio show. She was rambling for nearly 45 minutes about Iraq, and what the Iraqi people want and what they need. Then Mohammed, a native of Iraq who came to the states to seek refuge from Saddam called in to voice his opinion. Mohammed called in to share his views and to challenge the views of Andrea and her little organization on the war in Iraq, and in turn makes Andrea sound like another whining dolt trying to fight a cause they do not fully understand. Once again I say that people like this annoy the shit out of me. Most of them don’t care to protest prior, but when it becomes wide spread they have to jump on the bandwagon, otherwise their small lives feel meaningless. For those of you that want to hear the portion of the show where Mohammed called in, you can hear the call here. I want to thank adept for turning me on to this last week.

In other news the defcon page has been revamped, there will be more work done to it shortly. Until then thanks for stopping in and keep the word of mouth alive.

[MikeDawg]

I am almost appalled at the fact that she has some title with the Peace and Justice, she had absolutely no argument at all and was just dumbfounded, I think that group of Peace and Justice people need to keep some of their dumbasses off the air.

[serial_]

I've gotten into a LOT of verbal arguments over this war. Fucking liberals, stupid stupid fucking liberals.

It's nice to hear a man who fled iraq to get out from under saddam support the very things i've been arguing. Who better to know wtf should be done in Iraq than an IRAQI!?

Just an enormous comfort to know that i'm on the right side... in more than one way.

This war is a necessary evil. Do I like war? No not really. I think people dying sucks. But i don't have enough pussy in me to preach blindly about giving peace a chance. We have given peace a chance for the past decade. Time's up motherfucker. Time to blow his ass away. Saddam hates his own people and enjoys killing them, that much is self-evident with the rape rooms, torture houses, and gas attacks. It has come down to accidental deaths by crossfire or planned deaths by a radical psycho motherfucking dictator... one order of crossfire deaths with peace for dessert plz. yahkthx.

Note to all liberals/opposers (liberals who support the war are given assylum from this rant.): SHUT THE FUCK UP and go to isle #10 and buy a fucking clue. Peace has been given MULTIPLE chances, Saddam has shit on them all. This Jane Fonda bullshit is tiresome, and i'm sick of hearing you preach from your soap boxes. Step the fuck down and shut the hell up.

-serial_

[Muti]

I think you're the biggest preacher of them all... thanks, bye.

What if I'm not a liberal but still don't agree with the war?

Just an enormous comfort to know that i'm on the right side... in more than one way.

I guess that it would be comforting to let your opinions be made by other people, at least it's easier. Can't you see how the group mentality affects you? Poor serial, he just wants to feel included.

[Chonguey]

What if I'm not a liberal but still don't agree with the war?

Ha ha ha ha ha. That's a good one.

Zoob, you're the biggest liberal I know. You just hate to be labeled.

But just because you don't call yourself a liberal doesn't make you any less of a liberal. If every political idea you have is identical to those of the other liberals, you are a liberal.

The same goes for conservatisim, etc.

Don't be afraid of a label. It's just a way of classification. It doesn't make you any less of an individual.

[serial_]

Labels, groups, clicks...

we all belong to them. NO MATTER WHAT. in declaring yourself a part of no group you join the group that declares themselves part of no group.

I'm proud to be a right winger. And at least i have the nuts to admit that, yes - oh my dear lord, I belong to a group of people categorized by our like-minded views.

Republicans are the future, the past, and the present. You think liberals founded this country? Think again. Thomas Jefferson wrot ehte constitution that liberals love so much, and what was he? A republican. He also had the balls to execute a man on the white house lawn. Let's see clinton do that.

-serial_

Originally posted by serial_
He also had the balls to execute a man on the white house lawn. Let's see clinton do that.
-serial_

Um has bush done that lately? If he has I'd like to see the footage of that. The things that come out of your mouth.

[kweejee]

Fuck all you pro-war anti-war people. As long as they don't try forcing me to go over there they can play all they want.

[Muti]

I'm trying to find something talking about Thomas Jefferson executing someone on the White House lawn and haven't found anything. In fact, from what I've read it appears Jefferson actually wrote a bill to revise Virginia's death penalty laws to include only murder and treason. (http://teacher.deathpenaltyinfo.msu..../history-2.htm) I'm not saying Jefferson was against the death penalty, but I think you are full of shit. Also, republicanism and liberalism both had different meanings in colonial times. Go to http://plato.stanford.edu/cotents.html and read up on the philosophy of liberalism and republicanism. You might also want to check out http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/essay.html. Anyway, turn off Rush and try thinking for yourself for a change. Stop seeing things so fucking black and white.

Chongueyeyey. First of all, it was a hypothetical question. I said 'what if'. However, I don't see much of a difference between liberalism and republicanism. The democrats in office are mostly too big of pussies because they are terrified of being labeled as liberals.

I understand that we all are labelled by other people, but this isn't really something that should be accepted and encouraged. It is something that we need to continue fighting against. Once we label something, we are able to categorize it and ignore it. The broader the label, the less accurate you are in identifying the individual inside the group. Yes republicanism may be something exact, but no human being perfectly fits any political group.

Oh and serial_, it's 'cliques'.

Kweejee, if apathy was something to be revered, nobody would care much about you, now would they?

[Chonguey]

If it were a hypothetical question you should have used the subjunctive. The subjunctive is used, among other things, to denote hypothetical, or contrary-to-the-fact statements.

What you said "What if I am not a liberal...". The use of the conjugation 'am' is the first person present tense of the verb 'to be' and carries with it no implication of hypothesis.

You should have said "What if I weren't a liberal...". The use of the first person subjunctive conjugation 'were' denotes that you are suggesting something hypothetical..

Yeah, if I wanted to sound like a fucking idiot.


Anyway, I needed to emphasise the word 'not' to respond accurately.


New: Actually, thinking that over, you are right. I did imply that I was, but hmm.. it's actually really complicated. I should have doubled the hypothetical words, but it still doesn't change the question, which I was curious about regardless of my political standing.

[serial_]

Correcting grammar, punctuation, and spelling on the internet is like trying to explain to your dog why it's not good to shit in the living room. Both are pointless and solve nothing. We spend all day at work speaking correctly and worrying about dotting the proverbial and literal I's and crossing the T's. the internet is where we kick off our grammatical shoes and let our socks down.

so ffs, let the man do it!

-serial_

[vokx]

Originally posted by serial_
I'm proud to be a right winger. And at least i have the nuts to admit that

admitting what you are doesn't take nuts, it just proves you aren't a pussy.

Tell a priest that you are fucking his daughter while taking communion - that takes some nuts!

vokx.